Update on Asking Questions for Defy Stains 2020
We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions on prepping and application. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.
DEFY wood and deck stains contain advanced quality synthetic resins that resist mold and mildew growth, are easy to apply and environmentally friendly. How your Defy stands up to the elements varies though. A stain’s longevity is directly related to the preparation of the wood and how the stain is applied. At DefyStainHelp.com, we want everyone to have to best possible results when using the products we sell.
Please give us some details about your wood restoration project.
- Structure? Examples: Decking, Fencing, Wood Siding, Dock
- Wood Type? Examples: Redwood, Cedar, Treated Pine, Exotic Hardwood
- When was Wood Installed?
- The last Brand of Stain used if any?
- Additional Info if Needed
Please respond to these questions in the comment area below so we may offer some advice and help.
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TWP Stain Help Staff
Hello, I recently stained a deck using the Defy extreme semitransparent butternut stain. I removed all of the old stain, sanded all surfaces with a random orbital sander/sanding attachment on multi tool, pressure washed, cleaned with the Defy wood cleaner followed by the wood Brightener. The deck boards are several years old although the exact age is unknown since I bought the house about a year ago. It seems that sap is coming up out of the boards. The deck was stained about 2 weeks ago and looked great for a few days. Any suggestions on what to do? Is… Read more »
Yes, that is sap leeching out. No way to stop it and the only way to remove would be to sand it off. Easiest to just leave as is.
I have a 300 SQ ft pressure treated wood deck more that 20 years old. I have power washed it, used Defy Deck Brightener, and sanded it. I need some Defy Extreme deck stain. Redwood. I have some questions. I assume I will need 3 gallons: Is that correct? I live in Montreal Canada. How long will it take to get here? Does shipping include cost of Canadian customs clearance ? Will it be shipped direct to my door? Your website says not to stain the deck in mid-summer. I have no choice. But my deck faces east so it… Read more »
Yes, about 3 gallons. Shipping about 1-2 weeks. Shipping includes all customers, duty, etc. Direct to your door. You can stain in mid-summer, just not in the very high heat of the day. Later in the afternoon would be best. It can be sprayed.
I sanded a section of cedar siding that had been stained a dark color. The majority sanded off well but there was residual stain left in the corners and grooves. I purchased Defy Exterior Wood Stain Stripper to remove the rest of it. Easy directions to follow, but the cedar is now the shade of coffee. It has the appearance of being restained. Applied twice, still coffee. What happened?
You must brighten the wood after stripping to restore the natural pH balance of the wood.
What is the difference between the extreme wood stain and the extreme 40 stain? Is one a better product for cedar siding located in mid Missouri, USA?
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You would want the normal Extreme for MO. The “40” is only for the counties of Los Angeles.
my deck has a semi transparent stain on it but the weathering is so back that i may need to do a fair amount of belt sanding (to remove the splinters). So what is the best order to do the process, is it to first use the stripper and power wash, then use the belt sander then use the brightner and then finally stain the deck? ive read that i should use the brightner within 24 hours of doing the stripping.
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If you sand, do it between the stripping and brightening.
Have treated lumber deck.used defy wood cleaner and am going to use wood Brightener next.is defy semitransparent stain a sealer as well as a stain.if it isn’t can I use somebody else’s product that is both a sealer and a stain.thank you
A sealer cannot be applied over a deck stain and no need as well.
I have used defy wood cleaner on a deck that was neglected by previous owner.im going to use the Brightener today.i was thinking of using defy stain as the final step.but i am asking is your stain a sealer as well as a stain.if it isn’t,can I use another product that is also a sealer after your steps wood cleaner and Brightener?thanks
Is Defy Extreme Semi-transparent Wood Stain safe to use on the outside and inside of wooden vegetable planter boxes?
Yes.
Thank you for the reply to my question.
I sanded my deck. Then, as suggested, cleaned it with 4 to 1 ratio water to stripper. Then applied Defy brightener. Then, a few days later applied 2 coats wet on wet Defy Redwood Stain. Looked great! Now, about 2 weeks later, there are several areas that looked like the stain really seeped in and looks like it wasn’t even stained! Any suggestions?
Post a picture.
Here you go
That is more or less the grain of the wood. Leave alone for now and then clean and recoat with one coat next year.
Ok, will do. Thanks
Have a pressure treated pine deck. Getting ready to apply a maintenance coat of extreme stain. Already applied your brightener. when I put the stain on, do I just put on a single coat or do I use a wet on wet method?
Just one coat if you have a base coat.
So I stained my back deck that had no previous stain on it. It was about 1 year old and I cleaned and brightened with defy products then stained it with butternut stain looks good then I did saa as me thing with my front deck but it was older like 8 years old so it needed sanding And cleaned and brightened then stained it with the butternut stain. The front deck ( the older one) is way darker then my newer deck. Is it because the wood was so much dryer and course it sucked the color right up?… Read more »
No, more is not better and can lead to failure if over-applied.
I have one more question. I have a two year old, pressure treated deck. I will use a stripper and cleaner before applying Defy. But my question is about Defy holding up under the chickens poo. I work all day and unable to keep them off my nice shady deck. Should I be using some kind of a stronger sealant or just stain more frequently?
Just do more frequently.
If I am unable to apply a second coat within 60 minutes. How soon after could I apply a second coat?
You have to do it wet on wet or not do the second coat. You would have to wait 6-9 months and lightly prep again.
1) If I use Stripper on a previously semi-transparent stain, would I have to do any sanding or Stripper again?
2) Do I use Brightener immediately after stripper? What if I need to sand?
1. Only if it does not fully strip off your current coating.
2. Brighten right away unless you have to sand otherwise brighten after the sanding.
We just put one coat of defy extreme deck stain, and didn’t realize you had to put a second coat on within 20 minutes. Should we try to apply the second coat now? It seems to be beading up a bit. If we should wait, then for how long?
No, it will not take after it has cured. Wait 6-9 months and prep first by cleaning.
i have a cedar deck that was stained 3 yrs ago with an oil based stain. I just want to clean it a bit, not re-stain it this year. If i use your cleaner will i remove the stain and need to restain this year? I cannot, so i just want something to clean the surface a bit. Any suggestions?
Our cleaners should only be used if reapplying, not general cleaning. Try warm water and dish soap.
Hello. Do you think I need a stripper or is a cleaner plus brightener sufficient?
What stain brand is on their now?
I am not sure if there is a stain or not currently.
There is. It needs to be stripped and brightened.
What pigments can be used to adjust the color of Deft Extreme Semi-Transparent Stain?
Sorry but that is not possible.
I’m replacing the cedar deck under a veranda. The underneath side of the boards was stained with your semi-transparent extreme stain in October and installed. Unfortunately I didn’t clean the drips before everything dried. It’s now time to sand & stain the top surface. What do you recommend for removing the drip spots that show on the surface?
Defy Stain Stripper and then the Defy Brightener.
Thank you for the prompt reply!
How long does extreme defy stain take to dry
2-6 hours.
What do I use to apply extreme wood stain brush,roller, pad
Stain pad or roller.
Cab wood brightener be applied the day after a big rain or does deck need to be totally dry? Has already been cleaned with defy wood cleaner.
It can be applied to a damp or wet deck.
The last time we did anything to the deck… was 8 years ago and we used the defy epoxy fortified stain- do we still need to strip it?
Strip and brighten for prep.
Hi,
We had a Iron Wood deck built about a year ago. Initially a clear oil based stain was applied. I would like to switch to your product but wanted to be sure that was possible. Deck has been exposed to the sun and there are few areas that look as if it had been previously treated. Thank you,
Sincerely,
Mike Faran
After stripping off the current sealer and then brightening the wood, you can use the Defy Hardwood stain.
I plan on cleaning and brightening my deck today to prep for staining. It might rain tomorrow. Is that ok as long as I let it dry before staining or will the rain negatively affect the cleaning and brightening I did? Thank you
Just let it dry after raining for 48 hours.
Last fall we stripped sanded cleaned and brightened our pressure treated lumber deck all with Defy products. We now want to apply your Extreme stain in driftwood gray. Do we have to clean and brighten again or can we just scrub off any dirt and apply stain when totally dry?
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Clean and brighten the wood again.
I have a can of brand new, unopened stain from 2016. Can I still use it on a cedar deck? The deck was stained with the exact stain in 2016; I bought two gallons, but only used one. I plan on stripping, whitening and re-sealing this spring.
It is probably okay as long as it did not freeze.
I’ll be staining my deck next week using defy semi transparent butternut stain, using it on pressure treated lumber that I’ve stripped down with a belt sander to bare wood. I’ll be using the cleaner and brightener beforehand. My main question is after the first coat what is the ideal amount of time to wait before the 2nd cost? Also, can I walk on the deck to apply the 2nd cost or should I do it in a way where I dont retrace my steps and step on the deck? Any advice would help, I really want it to come… Read more »
See here: https://www.defystainhelp.com/what-is-wet-on-wet-stain-application/
Semi-transparent: Can I mix a can of clear with a can of butternut to get a less intense color?
Yes, you can.
What to use on PT pine knots before staining
Not sure what you mean? Nothing you can or need to do about knots.
Is there a time limit between cleaning,brighting then staining weather is wet in ohio
2 weeks.
Can Defy Stain be used on a Composite deck!
No, it cannot.
We did our second staining of a PT deck 2 years ago, both times were with Defy wood stain. It needs to be re-stained. The stain appears to have worn off just where the grain of the wood is more prominent, and not as tight. When tested with water drops, the areas where the stain has held up resists the water but the lighter areas do slowly absorb some water. I assume the stain will absorb in the lighter areas but will the stain adhere to the areas that are still dark, since it is now weathered? Will one coat… Read more »
Prep with the Defy Wood Cleaner and then apply one coat. Thanks
Is it good to do the brightener step between cleaning and staining?
No need if you have a base coat.
Previously stained, maybe with a solid stain , then sanded , pt pine dock 10 yrs old. Should I use marine seal or extreme semi transparent ? Marine seal indicates not applying over previously stained wood.
Neither can be applied over a previous stain Once you remove the old coating 100%, then you can use the Defy Extreme.
I’m going to sand all the stain off of my redwood deck to get back to the original color. Will Defy Composite deck sealer work on the redwood deck or is it only for composite products?
Only for composite wood.
I have some intricate exterior trim that has much of the old polyurethane finish gone for various reasons. Removing all remaining poly is impractical. What issues, both long and short term, will I experience by applying Extreme Wood Stain over the poly? I would hope after several years all of the poly will have failed and been removed by the annual cleaning process.
You cannot, it will not work.
I have used defy hardwood cedar tone for my cedar deck. What would I need to do to use defy extreme instead?
Strip and brighten the wood for prep.
What product is a better Sealer for a clay brick patio? Do not want an uneven blotchy look.
Defy masonry saver heavy duty water repellent
Or
Defy masonry saver brick water repellent.