Last Updated on February 8, 2021 by Defy Help
Update on Defy Stains for 2021
We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions on prepping and application. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.
DEFY wood and deck stains contain advanced quality synthetic resins that resist mold and mildew growth, are easy to apply, and environmentally friendly. How your Defy stands up to the elements varies though. A stain’s longevity is directly related to the preparation of the wood and how the stain is applied. At DefyStainHelp.com, we want everyone to have the best possible results when using the products we sell.
Please give us some details about your wood restoration project.
- Structure? Examples: Decking, Fencing, Wood Siding, Dock
- Wood Type? Examples: Redwood, Cedar, Treated Pine, Exotic Hardwood.
- When was Wood Installed?
- The last Brand of Stain used, if any?
- Additional Info if Needed
Please respond to these questions in the comment area below so we may offer some advice and help.
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TWP Stain Help Staff
I put one coat of defy stain on me deck floor and it looks great, but I didn’t understand that the 2nd coat should be applied “wet on wet”. Should I just leave it with one coat?
Yes, correct. Youc an add anothee one in 6+ months if needed after cleaning.
I have used and reordered your hardwood stain for use on my ipe deck. Should I do wet on wet for this type of wood. ?
I’ve not done wet on wet in the past.. thanks Rich..
Just one coat.
Thanks…
Our deck was refinished at the end of last summer. All prep work was done as instructed on your website with your cleaner, stripper, and brightener. Staining was done with Defy Extreme, wet on wet application, with a hand brush. Hours of work and $$$$. Deck looked gorgeous when it was done. Then winter came with snow. When the snow melted, the stain was all peeled off. Please see pictures of prepped deck, stained deck, and what we have now.
so now what why did this happen?
Thanks!
Hi Eve,
Your pictures show that the stain was over applied and dried on top of the wood. Defy is a fully penetrating stain and needs to soak into the wood perform properly. This could have happened from applying in full sun to the point that it flash dried or that the second coat was not applied wet on wet per instructions. I see your orders were as much as 1 month apart. Maybe you did this in sections and did not apply the second coat correctly? Anyway, over application is the reason it happened. Best to prep the floor now and apply one coat only. Rails should be fine.
Thank you for the reply. The second coat was applied over the first coat before the first coat was dry, so that was not the issue. We worked on this in small sections in very early AM before the sun was up and quit by 800 – 900 AM. However, it was hot and humid even in the very early morning.
I am assuming that I do not need to strip the remaining stain just pressure wash it, correct?
Thanks again!
Yes, correct.
Can I use brighter on COMPOSITE DECK
It will not do anything to a compostie deck.
Will Extreme deck sealer hide scuff marks? Or do I need to do additional work Watched YouTube video that stated light sanding or heat gun will alleviate. Is that something you would recommend?
Thank you
It will not hide scuff marks and we are not sure of any effective way to fix.
Buying a new cedar pergola. Comes with a light colored stain. Can I put a second coat using Defy stain to darken and protect the color.
No, you cannot apply the Defy over a diffrent brand of stain. That would have to be removed first.
We put a new redwood deck on last summer. Now ready to use your product. My question is: since we’ll be using a cleaner, is a brightner also necessary?
Yes, you need the brightener after to neutralize.
Hi, I would like some advice on the prep and application for this project, I want to stain the fence.
For prep, use the Defy Stain Stripper and pressure washing. Defy Brightener after. Stain with the Defy Extreme Stain. Two coats applied wet on wet: https://www.defystainhelp.com/what-is-wet-on-wet-stain-application/
I replaced my old deck last summer and used the Defy Clear Stain on the new one later in the fall. The Defy product looks beautiful and seals even better. I couldn’t be happier, but… The deck surrounds a pool, and when wet, the deck is very slippery. After a rain in early December I took a pretty hard fall, and recovered. I was hoping by now the deck would be less slippery. With swim season coming soon (Florida) I must put something on it to make the it less slippery. I could use some suggestions.Thanks in advance.
Defy is a fully penetrating stain and should not be slippery if it fully soaked in. If you over applied it to the point where it could not soak in and filmed on top of the wood, then that could be an issue. You would need to strip it off and then brighten the wood after. Apply just one coat so it fully soaks in.
Thank you, I talked to the contractor and they applied a third coat, makes sense. No simpler solution?
Sorry but no. You have to remove to fix.
which water clean up stain is best for new cedar deck. do i order extreme stain and sealer or hardwood stain and sealer?
See here about new wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
After wait and prep, use the Defy Extreme Stain.
I spilled some Defy pine wood house stain on my concrete floor. It is dry now. How can I remove the stain properly without damaging the concrete.
Try a graffiti remover stripper and pressure washing.
I recently used Defy composite deck sealer and followed instructions listed on product and I am left with a milky residue on the deck when wet? What could’ve caused this.
Over application plus it should go away soon.
Thanks, how soon is soon?
Few weeks.
I accidentally purchased AND APPLIED Extreme Deck Stain for Hardwoods (semi transparent, light walnut) instead of the product that is not meant for hardwoods which was initially used 6 years ago on our treated pine deck and a western red cedar fence.
We’d not yet applied any maintenance coat, and once power washed, our deck looked like most of the original stain was gone, especially on the horizontals.
The 2-coat wet on wet hardwoods stain appears to have gone on okay, although the fenceline only got one coat that was allowed to completely dry.
2 questions (as I’m feeling kind of sick upon recognizing our mistake after application):
1) Should we anticipate less durability having used the hardwood exterior stain instead of the non-hardwood stain that was initially used (and did great)?
2) Should I continue on with the hardwood exterior stain when it’s time for a maintenance coat in 2-4 years? Or at that point, should I strip and apply the non-hardwood exterior stain?
3) Our fenceline completely dried after just one coat of the hardwood exterior stain? Should we just let that fence stain wear and apply whatever next coat you recommend above..or can we apply second coatof thehardwood stain now?
Hoping this mistake may not turn out as badly as I fear…thanks!
1. You are okay.
2. Prep and switch to the other version if you want.
3. You cannot apply another coat now. You can in 6 months after prepping first.
Whew! Relieved. So just to confirm, if in a couple of years, it’s time for a one coat maintenance coat, I can just wash, brighten (if needed) and use EITHER the DEFY exterior hardwood OR the non-hardwood on both our treated pine deck and red cedar fence…on top of the Defy hardwood stain that’s on there now?
If you stick with the Hardwood just clean and brighten. To switch, you will need to strip and brighten.
Does the crystal clear version work for inside hardwood floors? An if yes…does it work as a stain or as a poly finish?
No, it does not.
Deck now stained for about 2 months. Some areas on horizontal surfaces appear grey/green after a rain. Suggestions?
Rinse with water should remove it.
My redwood deck has been aged for one year and I have never applied any stain on it. I have just ordered 3 gallons of Defy Extreme Clear stains, should I apply one coat or two coat on the deck for this first time staining?
If a year, two light coats applied wet on wet.
Can extreme stain recover from being frozen? I have a can that is almost full that unfortunately spent last winter in outdoor storage. Perhaps heating it would work. I have read that you can heat boat building epoxy and if will remove the crystallization.
It has gone bad if frozen.
I redid my porch with walnut semi transparent penetrating stain. My dogs tracked white primer paint in it which wont come off. Is there something that would remove it. Or can I strip the stain and start over?
You would have to remove all and start over. Not possible to spot fix.
How do I remove it? Can you explain how your stripper works. Does it penetrate into the wood and take it back to bare wood?
Even though I just stained it? If I strip it will it retake new stain? So would I strip and then brighten? Also can I just do a section? Since the majority of the porch Is good. It’s just an area of about 5 feet wide that has the marks on it. Thank you
To fix properly. Sand off the white primer first. Strip the rest of the deck after to remove the Defy. Repeat as needed until all is removed. Brightener goes on last. Not possible to spot fix. All flooring would need to be done.
The other option is to just sand off the primer white spots and then try to touch up with stain. Most likely this will not blend.
How long should the stain be down before possible rain. I have a mix of 6-month-old boards with older boards, so am applying one coat with another coat in a year.
4-6 hours.
Thank you!
I live in western NC and it rains every other day. I need to clean/brighten wood siding prior to staining. We have a nice weekend coming up, and I’m planning to clean/brighten this weekend. How long is it okay to wait till I apply the Defy stain after cleaning/brightening the wood siding? It’s pine siding. Also-looks like rain the following week. Can I give it 10/14 days before the first coat of stain?
Yes, stain within 2 weeks is best.
Hi there, Can I add an additional coat of transparent stain to new wood deck. First coat is very light in many areas and also terribly blotchy, and also the stain did not cover all in between each board. I understand the final product will be darker.
The first coat was applied one week ago.
Thank you for your help! Deena
No, it will not take at this point. You can prep and reapply another coat next Spring or Summer.
I used defy extreme on cedar siding and deck. I live in NE Maryland. I like it on the siding. (first photo) not so sure on the deck. (Use to use Flood) First applied to deck in 2018 on new cedar deck that had been sanded first. Summer of 2019 some spotting started. Some small spots where stain did not seem to take. Some from grease spots Brats dripping. (see second photo) Last year at end of season, i did a lot of scrubbing on grease spots and then brightened and stained. Got most of the grease spots but the areas where stain didn’t take very well did not really take again. I did use the stain from the previous year so MAYBE that was the issue. Not surprising I have new grease dripping spots from this summer. I want to fix the issue. Any recommendations specific to either the 1) grease spots or 2) areas where it didn’t take? Do I have to sand or strip?
The staining issue with the grease was a surprise. Should I not use this product for my deck? Any product that I should be using instead?
You would need to strip and brighten all the floors to fix this. As for grease drippings, not deck stain would be immune or prevent this from staining the wood.
My Flood stain was. But I did not like the build up I was getting from 20 year of stain on stain. Another question. for maintenance coating, will I always have to strip and brighten?
Clean and brighten for maintenance coats.
I put your walnut stain on my pine porch floor 2 years ago. It held up good but needs refreshing especially on the ends where it gets the weather. I was going to redo it again with the walnut. But I just change the color of my roof and I would actually like to switch to the gray stain. Would I have to strip Somehow the walnut off before I could do the gray or can I go right over it?
Strip and brighten for prep.
What is involved in stripping. How do I do that? Thank you.
Also the product on there now is your penetrating stain. Does that still have to be stripped?
Yes.
You can order directly from our website: https://www.defystain.com/wood-and-deck-stains.html
I accidentally purchased Extreme Deck Stain for Hardwoods (semi transparent, natural pine) instead of the same product that is not for hardwoods, which is what I have been using for the last 10 years on my deck. Can I use the “for hardwoods” product or do I need to return it and get what I have used in the past? Thank you.
Use the same as you have done before.
Can Defy Extreme Semi-Gloss Deck Stain be applied on two-year-old pressure-treated decking?
Defy does not come in a semi-gloss or any shine. If you meant semi-transparent, then yes, but make sure the prep first with the Defy Cleaner and then the Defy Brightener.
Thanks. You’re right. I meant semi-transparent.
I just installed a fence with AC2 pressure treated lumber, do i need to use any of the defy products to prep the wood, or can i stain right away with the extreme stain.
See this for new wood tips: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
Applied Defy Extreme, Semi-Transparent Cedar Stain to Deck after cleaning and brightening and following directions. Yesterday was heavy storm with mostly water beading over most of deck. However a few areas were unbeaded with a matte look. Should these areas be re-treated/stained after fully dry?
No, it is normal. Defy is not designed to bead water but sheds water.
Looking for advice for a 14 year old Mahogany deck. Which product would you suggest? Just cleaned and power washed the deck this weekend. We did have green mold on the deck, which we cleaned and previously used Penofin , but not satisfied that this green mold appeared in less than a year after it was done. It’s now 2 years and ready to protect my deck. Would an oil base product still be the best or could we use a water based product? Thanks for your help
Use Defy Hardwood Stain for this: https://www.defystain.com/defy-hardwood-stain.html
I missed the 2nd coat 20min to 1hr+ window of time. What do I need to do to apply a 2nd coat? ( I also noticed the instructions say horizontal surfaces may need “maintenance coats” how do I avoid patchy adherence if I apply a maintenance coat? )