Update on Asking Questions for Defy Stains 2019
We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions on prepping and application. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.
DEFY wood and deck stains contain advanced quality synthetic resins that resist mold and mildew growth, are easy to apply and environmentally friendly. How your Defy stands up to the elements varies though. A stain’s longevity is directly related to the preparation of the wood and how the stain is applied. At DefyStainHelp.com, we want everyone to have to best possible results when using the products we sell.
Please give us some details about your wood restoration project.
- Structure? Examples: Decking, Fencing, Wood Siding, Dock
- Wood Type? Examples: Redwood, Cedar, Treated Pine, Exotic Hardwood
- When was Wood Installed?
- The last Brand of Stain used if any?
- Additional Info if Needed
Please respond to these questions in the comment area below so we may offer some advice and help.
Thanks
TWP Stain Help Staff
How many hours of no rain must elapse after applying wet-on-wet of your Extreme Semi-Tansparent Wood Stain to ensure no damage to the stain?
6-12 hours.
I have a new deck that has “dried” over several months and am ready to prep & stain. I have watched application videos that have called for single and double cleaner applications. I have also read about application of 1 and 2 coats of stain. What is correct for a new deck that sees full sun all afternoon?
I have chosen semi- transparent butternut stain.
See this article on new wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
Based on that article, I only need one coat of stain. But what about the cleaner? One video showed wet surface,spray on cleaner, scrub, spray again, scrub again, & rinse. Another showed wet surface, spray cleaner, power wash to rinse. Which method is best for a new deck?
Just one application of the Cleaner is normal and then the Brightener.
wet surface, spray cleaner, power wash to rinse.
We had our decks stained last fall with two coats of DEFY after full prep and sanding 1:1 blend of light walnut and butternut. After just one season, some areas (more exposed) are showing fading and could stand to be touched up. Can I touch up without stripping and brightening or do I have to redo the entire decks?
You do need to clean, no need to strip or brighten.
Should a wood fence be recoated after 3 to 5 years? If so how to prep the fence
Yes. Clean and brighten for the prep.
After applying defy extreme, when is it rain safe
6-12 hours later.
I have a cedar deck installed in 2007. It has been stained twice, the last time in 2015 with Superdeck Transparent cedar stain. It was covered with green, slippery algae. I washed it with water plus dishwashing soap and borax, and then powerwashed it with water to remove the algae and dirt, etc. It now looks quite nice, fairly white with just a few hints of the old stain. So, my question is, “Can a waterbased stain now be used on this deck? Would I be better off using an oil based stain, or will the waterbased stain soak in… Read more »
You will need to strip it off and then brighten the wood. You cannot apply a different brand of stain over the SuperDeck. It doe snot matter if it is water or oil-based.
You talk about moisture meter do you sell them or do you have a recommendation. Would like to check moisture content on a new 12×14 deck made out of yellowwood that was built July 5th 2019. It’s in Fort Smith Arkansas and I am thinking about using defy extreme stain this year
We do not sell them. You will be fine to prep and stain after 3 months of weathering: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
What is the beat method and product to apply Defy Extreme Stain to a rough Cedar siding home. Any specific brand or type of application tool? Thank you!
Use a staining brush or stain pad.
Is there a WHITE defy deck stain? We would like a grey deck with white railings ….
We do not sell a white Defy stain.
How are your stains and shipped, ups, fed, also how are your samples shipped, Ups, fed
We ship UPS for the stain and samples.
Hi, my deck is < 1yr old. Never been stained/painted. I cleaned the deck with a deck cleaner from Lowe’s. Do I need to relearn the deck with your cleaner and brightener?
Yes.
I just had a new deck and fence built out of pine. I received from your company two stain samples. One is the cedar tone and I didn’t even apply it because it looks too much like the red clay that’s in my yard. The other sample is light walnut. I used a cloth and applied this to a couple of pieces of wood that was left over from the deck. This also looks like clay. I thought that it wouldn’t be so transparent but it is. I was looking at the butternut stain color and would like to know,… Read more »
The Butternut is a semi-transparent stain, not a solid stain.
Yes I realize that. I just don’t want my fence and deck to be dark but I also don’t want it to be red. When the crew dug holes for the posts there was red clay everywhere. They got it on the deck floor by walking on it of course and now the deck and steps are light orange. I don’t like that. I’m going to pressure wash it before it gets stained.
I’ve decided to order a sample of the butternut and see how it looks. Problem solved.
I am building a pergola out of untreated kiln dried Douglas fir. Could I pre stain all the lumber with your product before it is built or do I need to wait for the lumber to age.
Need to weather and prep the wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
I have a new deck 9 months old. I cleaned and brightened with deft products. I stained half the deck then rain came in. Its been 1 week. Also had to use an Osborn brush on the unfinished part because there was a white fuzz like on the wood. Do I need to use brighter again today or just stain when it dries out? Finished part beautiful.
Just stain when dry.
I have deck railing that are about 10 years old that have Behr stain on them. I’d love to not have to sand much if possible. Just power washing doesn’t phase the stain much.
Which stain stripper would you recommend and do you think a stain stripper will work?
Doug
The stripper and pressure washing should remove much of this.
How long should I wait to apply a Defy stain to a fence? I had a new fence put in two months ago. Also, should I just pressure wash the boards near the ground where dirt has been kicked up from rain or should I use a wood cleaner? If I did use a wood cleaner, do I need to do the entire fence?
You can stain it now. Prep with the Defy Wood cleaner and then the Defy Brightener. Use a pressure washer while using the prep. Do all the wood.
How long after prepping the wood do I need to wait to apply the product? 48 hours?
Yes.
can i apply one coat of defy and the following day apply a second coat?
No, has to be applied wet on wet if doing two coats.
Hello,
My deck has been prepped with the Defy wood brightner and I stained roughly seven or so planks with the Defy Semi-Transparent stain in Natural Pine. Unfortunately, the Natural Pine stain is a bit more yellow than I was expecting. Can I use the Defy brightner on these seven planks and re-stain with a different Defy semi-transparent stain or will I need to break out the sander?
Thanks!
You would have to strip or sand to remove. The Brightener by itself will not prep this.
What is the recommended maximum temperature of an ipe board to apply Defy Extreme? I have large mobile umbrellas to can provide shade while applying, but worried about the heat of the boards. Thank you, Keith
90 or less.
One more question, if this were to be applied now in July at 6am the temp is about 65-70 by 10 it’s 75-80 high temp 86 humidity about 40% now but usually 80% Can I apply for 1-2 hours in the AM then later about 530-6pm when the temp is about 70-75 with no direct sun? Thank you very much, David
You cannot overlap any areas with a large gap of time between the coats. It will dry very uneven if you do that. Best to finish a side fully and then take a break.
Hi, I meant can I stain for the time above and stop (full boards finished) boards are 5″ wide. I might not be able to stain an entire side of the house some portions are 20-25′ tall and the house is custom made not like a normal house at all. 1/2 the house is round shaped and on a slope so just moving the ladder around a is a major task… General Contractor has been slacking on this for over 6 months. Last thing, what’s the max wood humidity level to apply after sanding, cleaning, and brightening. Thanks
Hi in New Haven, CT. 06525 Have an architect built modern home with cedar siding on 8 acres surrounded by a billion trees up to 100′ tall. Issues with previous stains is mold on east/north side. South side is in direct sun most of the year. High humidity area 8 mile from the ocean. Remodeling part of the home and replacing 25% of the cedar. Need the best product you sell for this scenario and application/maintenance tips…. Thanks Dave
You would want the Defy Extreme Stain.
Sorry just one more question, if I order Defy stain this Friday, what is the soonest I could receive it, live in Missouri
Next week around Wednesday at the earliest.
Can I put more defy stain on after about of 1 week after the first 2 coats i already put on ?
No, the first coat has already cured. Applying another coat now and it will not adhere or soak in correctly.
thank you
I have just finished pressure washing a 7 year old pool deck that has never been treated with anything (pressure treated lumber).
What would be the next step in preparation for staining? From all the research it seems like the brightner as the deck is clean now.
Also, what precautions do I take to protect the pool water etc?
Thanks in advance
Yes, apply the Defy Wood Brightener. No issues with the pool water.
Thanks!
Do you have a solid stain for pressure treated wood decks?
Defy is made in a solid stain but we do not sell it on the website as it has to be custom mixed at a paint store.
Is it reasonable to use the Defy Hardwood Stain on teak furniture. If so which color (Light Walnut I presume) and and particular wait time? Special prep?
New wood? If so, wait a few months to let the wood season outside and prep with the Defy Cleaner before applying the Hardwood Stain in Light Walnut.
Why use light walnut instead of clear for teak furniture? Would you also recommend a brightener after using the cleaner? I recently purchased a teak bar that sits outside by our pool where it sits in the sun for several hours a day. It has been sitting indoors at the furniture store where I purchased it for a few months, and now outside for about one month. I am a novice when it comes to caring for wood products like this. Would you recommend Defy for this application?
Light Walnut gives a nice reddish brown color. Yes, on the brightener and using for the Teak bar.
How long is defy semi transparent extreme daytime before rain? In the product info, it says 2-4 hours dry time, but then 24 hours prior to use. Mainly trying to sort out can I stain even though it will rain the next day….Thanks.
…drytime…
Dry 4-8 hours before it can take a rain.
Thx!
I’ll defy stripper remover Behr Deck Stain. It seems to be tough to come off. Thought I might try it before I resort to sanding my deck.
Best to strip as much as you can and then sand the rest. Easier this way.
I have a cedar fence that is prone to algae. I am planning to clean, brighten and stain with defy stain. Can I apply Resist Mist for additional protection from algae or does defy not accept it? Thank you
Never heard of this product but many have use products like “Wet and Forget” and it seems to help.
I have a problem of epic proportions. I have purchased Defy Extreme and believe I have purchased the best product on the market. My sister’s new deck is 13 months old. I was rained out last fall after the deck was prepped and it became too cold to stain. This spring I came back to stain. The deck is 36×14 and half of the deck is a screened in porch. It is constructed of pressure treated wood. My problem is: the contractor countersunk the screws 1/8″ and plus, then he filled the holes with Elmers exterior wood putty. This is… Read more »
You cannot use wood filler like this on decks and the Defy Stain will not work to “stain” the wood filler so it blends. It also will not stop any rust. The Defy Brightener will help to remove the black rust spots during the prep. If you replace all the screws and remove the putty, you should be okay.
I need a advice/recommendation on the best clear restorative, stain for a 38 year old Boulder CO town home, back deck (pressurized wood) that gets little or no direct sunshine and only half the deck is exposed to rain and snow. I just scrubbed the deck with Thompson’s deck scrub and Borax and am letting it dry. The deck pressurized wood is in relatively good shape and is smooth. Should I just apply DEFY Extreme 1 Gallon Exterior Wood Stain, Crystal Clear on it right away? or should I first sand the deck and then also apply a deck brightener? The… Read more »
Post a picture of the current condition.
Can Defy Extreme semitransparent be over and oil based stain if it’s is stripped and neutralized??
If stripped and neutralized, yes.
I have a treated pine deck in an enclosed patio that is about 5 years old Evidently some of the wood was not treated very well and I have replaced random boards last year and again this year. Now the deck is a patchwork and the color inconsistent. I want a semitransparent stain to even out the color preferably in a light driftwood gray. I have had the deck pressure washed and now ready for the next step. What do I do? Does each age of wood have to be prepped differently? Live in the NC coastal area and have… Read more »
Post a picture of the wood.
We bought a house with an approx 5 year old un-stained (pressure treated pine) deck, and I’d like to treat it. Wondering, 1) do I need to use both a cleaner AND brightener on it? 2) If I have RAD cleaner/brightener, will it work just as effectively for this project as the Defy version? 3) Does DEFY Extreme Stain ever peel? Or does it just fade? I’m wondering this mostly because I want re-application down the road to be a breeze
Thanks!
Hello,
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Not if applied correctly. It is fully penetrating.
Clean and recoat when needed down the road.
Great! Thanks for the prompt reply
Can’t wait to get started with your product!!
p.s. forgot to ask: do you I need a sealer on top of the 2 coats of Defy Extreme?
No, you cannot apply a sealer on top of a deck stain.
I have a wood deck that has stain on it that is peeling. What should I use to clean the wood before re staining it? Thank you for your assistance.
Lisa
What brand and type of stain is on there now?
it was a sherwin williams deck stain. I did it last year and it’s already peeling really bad on the horizontal surfaces. The deck itself is approximately 30 years old.
What type of stain? Can you post a picture?
picture of deck and the stain I used
You will need to remove this with the Defy Stain Stripper and then the Defy Wood Brightener.
Thank you! Do I need to wait a certain amount of time after I use the brightener to stain?
48 hours to dry.
Thank you much! You have been very helpful!
Good day. I own a pine log home that is ready to be restained and sealed. And a new pine deck do you recommend your product to treat log homes with
See this for new wood and Defy: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
You would want the Defy Extreme Stain for both: https://www.defystain.com/wood-restoration/wood-and-deck-stains/defy-extreme.html
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I used your product about 5 years ago on a redwood deck. The product label is Defy The Elements Epoxy fortified wood stain light Walnut. What can I purchase to go over this deck again?
This product was replaced with the Defy Extreme Stain: https://www.defystain.com/defy-extreme-stain.html
Colors are the same.
I have a 5 year old treated deck – 1500 sq.ft. total. It`s a wrap around deck, 60×12 one way, 30×12 the other way, an 8×8 landing, 16 steps and railing that is wood/metal mix. How much cleaner, brightener, and stain do I need?
For 1500 Sq feet:
2 Defy Cleaners
2 Defy Brightener
15 Gallons of stain for the 2 coats applied wet on wet.
I have cleaned a Gondola made with treated lumber with the wood cleaner. The dark stain has come completely off in some parts but 75% remains intact. Since I am going to use the solid wood stain, does the old stain have to come completely off? The solid stain should cover both the stained and unstained parts. Correct?
If using the solid stain, yes it will cover it.
I have a 16×16 pressure treated deck that sits in the sun all day long. I previously stained it with Defy Extreme 3 years ago. I am about to clean,brighten and stain the deck again. When watching a how-to video it states not to do it in the direct sun. They only nice weather I will have is sunny days, can I still stain the deck? Also, how much time do I need after staining before rain should get on it?
Stain in the morning or later evening on a sunny day and you should be fine.
The cedar decking arrived reasonably dry and light and was installed over the last week. So far there has been a great deal of rain so the wood isn’t getting any drier. What are the consequences of staining much earlier than recommended if we get a series of sunny days during which the wood may be as dry as it will get?
See this about new wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
Do not do it early, it will not take.
Which product offers the best UV protection from fading on a Tigerwood outdoor railing? I applied the new Extreme, but am wondering if I should have or should now apply a second coat of the Defy for Hardwood. Is there a way to get a gloss finish? Thank you.
No, you cannot have a gloss finish on a deck. It will peel. Do not apply another coat.
Do you make a stain with insecticide and UV already in it
UV yes. No on insecticides.
The internet says that cedar is a softwood. Why do you recommend Defy for Hardwoods for a cedar deck?
Yes.
That is not an answer to my question.
It penetrates cedar wood better.
I have a 16×20 pool deck that was stained with Defy Extreme 3 years ago. The deck sits in the sun all day long and get chlorinated pool water on it. I live in the North East so it gets weathered.
Can I just reapply Defy again or will I have to re-prep again?
You always have to prep when you reapply. Prep and reapply the Defy.
I have a 3 year old covered cedar deck in Oregon. I applied one coat Defy Hardwood when it was new 3 years ago. I want to change color so I will sand, strip and brighten, in that order. In one of your posts it says that sanding can hinder stain absorption. My questions are: Should I sand and in the order I posted? Should I use Extreme or Hardwood for cedar in Oregon? 90 degree summers and below freezing winters. Since I am stripping is it considered a new deck so would I follow the directions for new wood… Read more »
No need to sand. Strip and brighten the wood. Use the Hardwood version. No, it is not considered a new deck after stripping. Apply 2 coats wet on wet.
Can you be more clear? Is it considered a new deck or not. You say it IS considered new and this site says a new deck should only have one coat the first year.
Typo. Missed the “not”.
Everywhere I read on the internet it says that cedar is a softwood.Why do you recommend Defy for Hardwoods for cedar?
The internet says that cedar is a softwood. Why do you recommend Defy for Hardwoods for cedar decking?
Well the prep and staining has begun and I am a nervous wreck. The prepping was completed today and I pray we did it correctly. We followed the directions and the deck does look clean and bright. The stain goes on Monday (Memorial Day) I will surely be sending pictures. This is a brand new deck that has cured for 9 months. It was not very dirty at all. My contractor has never used DEFY and he was impressed with the prep materials. We are following directions and only putting one coat on the deck. Should I put on a… Read more »
Only apply a maintenance coat if needed. Use the Defy Cleaner for prep.
I am looking to purchase the Defy Stain Stripper and Brightner to clear off an old oil based stain that has a few years wear. My deck is over a concrete slab. Do I need to cover the slab so it doesn’t absorb any of the stripped stain or will it just power wash off the concrete after I clean up the wood?
Any update here?
Just pressure wash when done. No need to tarp.
I ran out of DEFY Extreme semi trans gray while apply to new Yellawood deck. Can says do not apply on dry stain so what do I do? Can I apply second coat over first IF it gets absorbed or is it always a no no?
THANKS
I should have checked to make sure I had enough — bummer!
You cannot apply a second coat over the first coat if it has already dried an cured.
HELP? I put on first coat of DEFY Extreme semi trans gray and ran out! Can’t get more while the first coat is still wet. Can I apply second coat if first coat is very very light? (I should have checked to make sure I had enough of the product!)
No, you cannot coat it if the first coat has already cured. Best to wait until late Fall or early Spring of next year. Light wash to remove dirt first.