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Last Updated on June 22, 2022 by Defy Help

Update on Defy Stains for 2022

We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions on prepping and application. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.


DEFY wood and deck stains contain advanced quality synthetic resins that resist mold and mildew growth, are easy to apply, and are environmentally friendly. How your Defy stands up to the elements varies though. A stain’s longevity is directly related to the preparation of the wood and how the stain is applied.  We want everyone to have the best possible results when using the products we sell.

Please give us some details about your wood restoration project.

  • Structure? Examples: Decking, Fencing, Wood Siding, Dock
  • Wood Type? Examples: Redwood, Cedar, Treated Pine, and Exotic Hardwood.
  • When was Wood Installed?
  • The last Brand of Stain used if any?
  • Additional Info if Needed

Please respond to these questions in the comment area below so we may offer some advice and help.

Thanks

TWP Stain Help Staff

 

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Robert
Robert
5 hours ago

The instructions for stain say to let the deck dry for 72 hours after cleaning and brightening. What would the necessary moisture content be using a moisture meter? Thanks

Bob
Bob
1 day ago

Does 2nd coat of butternut darken the color or should clear be used for 2nd coat

David Vittorio
David Vittorio
1 day ago

Hello, I stained my deck using Defy Cedar color. I cleaned and brightened – let it dry and stained. I have some drip marks in certain areas. Can I sand with an orbital sander and reapply just the stain/?
Thanks,
David

David Vittorio
David Vittorio
10 hours ago
Reply to  David Vittorio

Hello, the color is a bit bright-almost orange- what do I have to do to go over it with a pine color to tone it down?

David Vittorio
David Vittorio
10 hours ago
Reply to  Defy Help

so my guess is to sand and start from scratch?

Robert
Robert
2 days ago

What is the shelf life of the five gallon container of semi-transparent stain once opened? How much stain should I plan on for fully sanded 35 year old 450sq ft wood for only one coat? I am trying to determine if the remaining unused will still be usable for another coat next spring.

Arty
Arty
4 days ago

Last stained siding with Defy Wood Oil, Natural (previously was BioWash). Now I wish to give refresher coat but unable to locate the product anywhere in Canada or US. If no longer available, can you recommend a substitute stain and where can one purchase 5 gal.

Ray
Ray
9 days ago

I sanded our 35 year old deck and cleaned and brightened it using another vendors product. We have decided to use Defy semi-transparent stain because the samples give a better color result. Do I need to re-clean and brighten using the Defy product or can I just apply the Defy semi-transparent stain?

Julie
Julie
10 days ago

Hi, our second coat of water based Defy stain feels tacky in spots 12 hours after application, can this be fixed?

Bruce
Bruce
14 days ago

I stained our new treated pine deck in 2020 with Defy Extreme Natural Pine. It really soaked in and I wish I had had enough then to apply wet on wet a second coat. I asked your helpline then and they said to simply clean and apply another coat the following year. Didn’t have time or good weather in 2021 so now I’m preparing to do it in 2022. Question is, I have quite a bit of green “algae” and some darker growth. Will the Defy cleaner remove this adequately before staining? Should I use something stronger? My plan is to clean, rinse, let dry, then apply the second coat of stain. Is this now the right way to approach? Thanks….

Bruce
Bruce
14 days ago
Reply to  Defy Help

I should use the brightener again after the cleaner even though the deck already has a coat of Defy stain on it? Should I plan on doing two coats this time?

Jody G
Jody G
16 days ago

I have a very old weathered wood deck made of pressure treated wood. It’s pretty damaged but I’ve nontheless pressure washed it and want to use a defy wood stain to give it some protection. I Have a lot of leftover defy HARDWOOD stain from another project but not sure if it would be better to use it or just the regular defy extreme woodstain that’s not for hardwood. Is one a better choice than the other for very old damaged pressure treated wood deck or are both equally ok for this project?? Thank you for your input!

Donna
Donna
16 days ago

staining a new, pressure treated pine deck. I planned on using Cedar tone water based stain after 2 step prepping.. I am still not clear if one or two coats of stain are required. One update says “new wood one coat.” The label says two coats.

Keith
Keith
18 days ago

FYI It’s rough cut boards

Keith
Keith
18 days ago

Just finished building a 6′ tall, 320′ fence out of Japanese Cedar (aka Cyprus wood). Which products do you recommend for prep and stain (ex. Extreme or Hardwood)?
Would I do 1 coat? I’m in the upper mid-west weather band.

Todd
Todd
20 days ago

It is going to be over 95 degrees this week. Can Ultra semi-transparent be applied on a deck in the morning before the heat of the day? Will be applied in the shade.

Craig
Craig
23 days ago

I recently stained my sanded deck of pine with Light Walnut hoping for a nice light brown coloured – it looks like a pumpkin. So orange. I deliberately did not get the Cedar based on all the reviews I read about it being very orange yet the Light Walnut is anything from a brown color. Did i get a mixed up batch of cedar in a light brown 5GL container? Makes no sense.

Jody G
Jody G
1 month ago

how long does defy hardwood stain need to dry on a deck before getting rained on?

Jody G
Jody G
1 month ago

hi there. I have a very old damage wood deck made of pressure treated wood (pine?) Ive pressure washed it and it’s pretty damaged -the wood surface is grooved and fuzzy with wood fiber. I have a lot of left over defy hard wood stain from another house project and wonder if I can use it to offer some color/protection to this wood deck. I am aware it will have limited benefit but probably work better than a deck sealant I’m thinking. Would that work at all??

Ryan
Ryan
1 month ago

I just applied 2 coats of stain last week and some spots didn’t turn out as dark as others. Can I put another coat in those areas.

Mary
Mary
1 month ago

We stained our pool deck with Defy butternut semi solid stain. Our dogs have walked on it with muddy feet and I can’t clean it off. What should I clean it with that won’t remove the stain?

Todd Sherline
Todd Sherline
1 month ago

I have an eight or nine year old pressure treated pine deck which has never been treated in any way. There are some deck boards to be replaced and stair stringers to repair or replace. I have the cleaner, brightener, and semi- transparent stain. What type of wood do I need to use and what additional steps should I take before cleaning, brightening, and staining according to the instructions on the packages and/ or this website?

John
John
1 month ago

Does defy ultra semi transparent stains come in 5 gallon buckets

Curtis
Curtis
1 month ago

I have left over Defy Extreme butternut stain that may be 6 years old or older in a 5 gallon bucket. Is the product still good after so many years? I stirred it up and it appears the color is good and I put it on a scrap piece of wood, 2 coats, and can see that it is beading up the water. Is there an expiration date on the Defy Extreme stain?

Linda Gatter
Linda Gatter
1 month ago

I”m getting some Kiln Dried Vertical Grain Hemlock for use in soffits. I know the soffit won’t be receiving as much UV as a deck, but as I”m in the northeast they’ll be getting some UV off reflected snow. 
The defy clear says that the finish needs to be recoated annually or when greying starts to appear. Is this also true for the Defy Semi Transparent wood stains? Or do they provide a substantially larger protection from greying? Also, as the wood is Kiln Dried, do I have to let it weather before staining it? And is there an advantage to coating it on all sides? Thanks

Linda Gatter
Linda Gatter
1 month ago
Reply to  Defy Help

Ok, that link is for Kiln Dried wood After Treatment, KDAT.

I”m not using pressure treated wood. It’s Kiln Dried untreated wood. Do I still have to wait a month after receiving it to stain?

Kristy
Kristy
1 month ago

Is Defy Extreme Deck Stain safe to dispose rags and brushes directly in the garbage? Or do they need be put in a container with lid?

Also if stain got on clothing, is it safe to just wash normally with soap and water in the washing machine?

Marcel
Marcel
1 month ago

I have a log home. The milled log walls have currently been stained with Sikkens Log & Siding every three years on the south facing lakefront. It’s only been two years since the last coat and it already needs another coat. I generally scrub it clean it with a diluted bleach & TSP, pressure wash rinse and wait three days before I stain. Can I use a Defy product over this and which do you recommend?

Kristine Sohrakoff
Kristine Sohrakoff
1 month ago

I went through all three steps and my covered deck that surrounds our home turned out beautiful. Now three years later it is due for another coat as it is allowing water to penetrate the wood. My questions are, what steps do I need to do before application and do I need to do the second set coat?
Looking forward to your answers.
Kristine

Jimmy
Jimmy
1 month ago

I am building a post and rail fence out of recently milled rough-sawn eastern red cedar and want to preserve the natural coloring. I have my lumber stored inside, out of the Texas sun. I am looking at using your Crystal Clear product and wondering about pre-treating the lumber prior to construction. Is this advisable and if so, what kind of coverage should I expect to get assuming one coat on new wood?

Paul Warnick
Paul Warnick
1 month ago

I used Defy solid water based stain, 2 coats last year. The deck is prone to getting dirty from a nearby farm field and blowing dust. The dust seems to adhere to the deck boards. Normal hose pressure and mild scrubbing just spreads it dirt around.
What is a reccomended cleaner / procedure for yearly cleanly, not involving restaining.
Thank you

Stephen Robinson
Stephen Robinson
1 month ago

I put down Defy Stain on my outdoor deck 5 years ago. It needs to be refreshed. What is the proper preperation for a restaiin of Defy Stain over Defy Stain? Originally I powerwashed, used wood cleaner and brightner and put down 2 coats of stain. I’m thinking that for the restain that I would just power wash and they go directly to the stain (leave out wood cleaner and brightner). Is this correct? Any tips on a reapplication of Defy stain would be appreciated.

Nick Gillock
Nick Gillock
1 month ago

Hi, We used Defy solid stain on our deck (black color) and it is very prone to getting dusty footprints on it. Is there some type of low lustre clear coat (exterior polyurethane?) that we could apply over the stain such to reduce this issue? Thanks for any input, Nick

Stephen L Reed
Stephen L Reed
1 month ago

I need to stain new wood on my deck which was previously treated with Defy Epoxy Fortified Wood Stain Cedar Tone.

Which current product is the best color match and/or best substitute.

Rob
Rob
1 month ago

I have defy semi transparent cedar tone on my deck now. Would I have to sand or just wash and brighten if I was to use your defy solid deck stain? Thanks.

James M White
James M White
2 months ago

Last year I refinished my deck with Defy with terrific results and many compliments. The deck is in the shade all day due to the tall trees behind it. The deck has developed a thin green algae film. Do have or know of any products you would recommend to remove the algae without hurting the defy stain?

Janet Y Higgins
Janet Y Higgins
2 months ago

I am making about 10 raised bed gardens out of cedar fence pickets, and I am using ground treated pressure wood as outside supports/posts for the planters for a total surface area of about 500 sq. ft. The cedar planks are kiln dried, but the pressure treated wood is very wet. As these beds are currently empty, is it best to stain the outsides with the Defy Hardwood for cedar now (after cleaning and brightening) and then go back in about 6 months to paint the pressure treated wood or just do everything in 6 months at which time they will be in position in the yard and filled with vegetables making power cleaning much more difficult? If I treat it now, does it do any harm to get Defy on the pressure treated wood (not expecting it to stain, but just to allow faster application)? Do I still need 2 coats as it will only be on vertical surfaces?

CL Thompson
CL Thompson
2 months ago

Aug 2020 I stained my 2 year old deck for the first time with Defy Extreme Semi-Transparent Natural Pine, using first the Defy Cleaner and Brightener. All went well! Now in April 2022 deck railings still look great but need to put another coat on deck floor as it has worn off/lightened from the elements (NO peeling just looks “thirsty” for more stain). 1) Do I need to strip it, clean or brighten to prep for re-staining? 2) One or two coats of stain this time?

LISA ARMSTRONG
LISA ARMSTRONG
2 months ago

Is sanding necessary before staining?


  • Structure? Pool Deck
  • Wood Type? Pressure Treated Pine
  • When was Wood Installed? 2 Years ago
  • The last Brand of Stain used, if any? Never been stained
Michael P Doran
Michael P Doran
2 months ago

Will DEFY cleaner work on a weathered hardwood entrance door?

David Good
David Good
2 months ago

Three questions:
1. How many coats of Defy extreme do you apply to a new cedar post?
2. Can you use a clean rag to apply Defy?
3. I am painting engraved letters on a cedar post with acrylic latex paint. Can I apply Defy Extreme over the paint without damaging the paint?

Linda
Linda
2 months ago

Are Defy extreme wood stain and cleaner still good after being left in a very cold shed over the winter. It seems to work okay on a piece of scrap limber but thought I wouldvask before doing whole screen room. Also stain etc is from last spring, still good?

Linda
Linda
2 months ago
Reply to  Defy Help

How can we tell if the stain has “gone bad?”

Linda
Linda
2 months ago
Reply to  Defy Help

We don’t know if it froze IS THERE A WAY TO TELL IF IS BAD.

Richard
Richard
2 months ago

On your home page, there’s a can of Defy Extreme Solid Color stain, but when I go to product selection I only see semi-transparent. Are the colors for the solid the same? And can I get a couple of small cans of sample color?

Len Fletcher
Len Fletcher
2 months ago

6 months ago I put a DEFY water based solid color stain on my dock. It is lighter than I wanted and want to put a darker color over the lighter color. Can this be done? Do I need to do any prep work other than cleaning the surface. Again the product has been down just 6 months, it was put on new treated deck boards. Excellent condition.

Verne
Verne
2 months ago

Stained my deck last year now it looks rough. Can I clean it up with just a pressure washer or should I use the defy cleaner first?

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Verne
Verne
2 months ago
Reply to  Defy Help

here is what the deck looked like after cleaning last spring, I think it cleaned up pretty well, as you can see. The dark areas were out there before applying the stain. I’ve included a couple more pics for your viewing both after cleaning and after staining. The soiled areas appear to have been due to wear and time. Can those be cleaned up? Using your cleaner and pressure washing?

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Amy
Amy
3 months ago

Is DEFY stain a sealer too? Or do you have to use another sealer to keep it protected from wet weather?

Gary Richards
Gary Richards
3 months ago

I bought a 8 year old home with a front porch that appears to have never been stained or sealed. I have another brand of deck cleaner and Defy extreme stain. Do I really need to use the brightener too?

Elaine
Elaine
4 months ago

I stained my deck with Defy stain in Butternut last year. I have a few boards that the stain has peeled off in spots. Do I need to sand these boards and go through all of the steps with cleaner and brightner before applying the stain again?

Beth
Beth
4 months ago

Can I add a colorant to the stain to achieve a green shade ?

Nicole
Nicole
6 months ago

I am using Defy wood stripper to remove 6 year old old Behr stain from my dock, then lightly pressure washing, and applying Defy Extreme Semi-Transparent Stain in Cedartone. Thereafter, I plan to restain every 24 months with the same Defy Extreme stain. Will I need to do the stripper each time, or just lightly pressure wash and apply the Defy stain over it every 2 years? I live in central Florida. Thanks

Terry
Terry
7 months ago

Pressure treated pine dock ;pressure washed ; used defy cleaner defy brightener then used defy crystal clear after it dried it still has a milky look to the dock it has dried for 2 weeks and did not get rained on for 4 days after clear was applied

Mary B.
Mary B.
8 months ago

1. Old douglas fir porch that was sanded a month ago and looks like new: 1 or 2 coats of stain?
2. My store is out of the Defy deck cleaner but has the brightener. Ok to use another brand of cleaner? Thank you.

Mary
Mary
8 months ago

How long before we can walk on the stained deck?

Deb Wellnes
Deb Wellnes
8 months ago

We have a pressure treated wood deck we are looking to restrain before winter? If we use two coats of the water based stain, do we need to apply a sealer?

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