Update on Asking Questions for Defy Stains 2020
We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions on prepping and application. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.
DEFY wood and deck stains contain advanced quality synthetic resins that resist mold and mildew growth, are easy to apply and environmentally friendly. How your Defy stands up to the elements varies though. A stain’s longevity is directly related to the preparation of the wood and how the stain is applied. At DefyStainHelp.com, we want everyone to have to best possible results when using the products we sell.
Please give us some details about your wood restoration project.
- Structure? Examples: Decking, Fencing, Wood Siding, Dock
- Wood Type? Examples: Redwood, Cedar, Treated Pine, Exotic Hardwood
- When was Wood Installed?
- The last Brand of Stain used if any?
- Additional Info if Needed
Please respond to these questions in the comment area below so we may offer some advice and help.
Thanks
TWP Stain Help Staff
which water clean up stain is best for new cedar deck. do i order extreme stain and sealer or hardwood stain and sealer?
See here about new wood: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
After wait and prep, use the Defy Extreme Stain.
I spilled some Defy pine wood house stain on my concrete floor. It is dry now. How can I remove the stain properly without damaging the concrete.
Try a graffiti remover stripper and pressure washing.
I recently used Defy composite deck sealer and followed instructions listed on product and I am left with a milky residue on the deck when wet? What could’ve caused this.
Over application plus it should go away soon.
Thanks, how soon is soon?
Few weeks.
I accidentally purchased AND APPLIED Extreme Deck Stain for Hardwoods (semi transparent, light walnut) instead of the product that is not meant for hardwoods which was initially used 6 years ago on our treated pine deck and a western red cedar fence. We’d not yet applied any maintenance coat, and once power washed, our deck looked like most of the original stain was gone, especially on the horizontals. The 2-coat wet on wet hardwoods stain appears to have gone on okay, although the fenceline only got one coat that was allowed to completely dry. 2 questions (as I’m feeling kind… Read more »
1. You are okay.
2. Prep and switch to the other version if you want.
3. You cannot apply another coat now. You can in 6 months after prepping first.
Whew! Relieved. So just to confirm, if in a couple of years, it’s time for a one coat maintenance coat, I can just wash, brighten (if needed) and use EITHER the DEFY exterior hardwood OR the non-hardwood on both our treated pine deck and red cedar fence…on top of the Defy hardwood stain that’s on there now?
If you stick with the Hardwood just clean and brighten. To switch, you will need to strip and brighten.
Does the crystal clear version work for inside hardwood floors? An if yes…does it work as a stain or as a poly finish?
No, it does not.
Deck now stained for about 2 months. Some areas on horizontal surfaces appear grey/green after a rain. Suggestions?
Rinse with water should remove it.
My redwood deck has been aged for one year and I have never applied any stain on it. I have just ordered 3 gallons of Defy Extreme Clear stains, should I apply one coat or two coat on the deck for this first time staining?
If a year, two light coats applied wet on wet.
Can extreme stain recover from being frozen? I have a can that is almost full that unfortunately spent last winter in outdoor storage. Perhaps heating it would work. I have read that you can heat boat building epoxy and if will remove the crystallization.
It has gone bad if frozen.
I redid my porch with walnut semi transparent penetrating stain. My dogs tracked white primer paint in it which wont come off. Is there something that would remove it. Or can I strip the stain and start over?
You would have to remove all and start over. Not possible to spot fix.
How do I remove it? Can you explain how your stripper works. Does it penetrate into the wood and take it back to bare wood?
Even though I just stained it? If I strip it will it retake new stain? So would I strip and then brighten? Also can I just do a section? Since the majority of the porch Is good. It’s just an area of about 5 feet wide that has the marks on it. Thank you
To fix properly. Sand off the white primer first. Strip the rest of the deck after to remove the Defy. Repeat as needed until all is removed. Brightener goes on last. Not possible to spot fix. All flooring would need to be done.
The other option is to just sand off the primer white spots and then try to touch up with stain. Most likely this will not blend.
How long should the stain be down before possible rain. I have a mix of 6-month-old boards with older boards, so am applying one coat with another coat in a year.
4-6 hours.
Thank you!
I live in western NC and it rains every other day. I need to clean/brighten wood siding prior to staining. We have a nice weekend coming up, and I’m planning to clean/brighten this weekend. How long is it okay to wait till I apply the Defy stain after cleaning/brightening the wood siding? It’s pine siding. Also-looks like rain the following week. Can I give it 10/14 days before the first coat of stain?
Yes, stain within 2 weeks is best.
Hi there, Can I add an additional coat of transparent stain to new wood deck. First coat is very light in many areas and also terribly blotchy, and also the stain did not cover all in between each board. I understand the final product will be darker.
The first coat was applied one week ago.
Thank you for your help! Deena
No, it will not take at this point. You can prep and reapply another coat next Spring or Summer.
I used defy extreme on cedar siding and deck. I live in NE Maryland. I like it on the siding. (first photo) not so sure on the deck. (Use to use Flood) First applied to deck in 2018 on new cedar deck that had been sanded first. Summer of 2019 some spotting started. Some small spots where stain did not seem to take. Some from grease spots Brats dripping. (see second photo) Last year at end of season, i did a lot of scrubbing on grease spots and then brightened and stained. Got most of the grease spots but the… Read more »
You would need to strip and brighten all the floors to fix this. As for grease drippings, not deck stain would be immune or prevent this from staining the wood.
My Flood stain was. But I did not like the build up I was getting from 20 year of stain on stain. Another question. for maintenance coating, will I always have to strip and brighten?
Clean and brighten for maintenance coats.
I put your walnut stain on my pine porch floor 2 years ago. It held up good but needs refreshing especially on the ends where it gets the weather. I was going to redo it again with the walnut. But I just change the color of my roof and I would actually like to switch to the gray stain. Would I have to strip Somehow the walnut off before I could do the gray or can I go right over it?
Strip and brighten for prep.
What is involved in stripping. How do I do that? Thank you.
Also the product on there now is your penetrating stain. Does that still have to be stripped?
Yes.
You can order directly from our website: https://www.defystain.com/wood-and-deck-stains.html
I accidentally purchased Extreme Deck Stain for Hardwoods (semi transparent, natural pine) instead of the same product that is not for hardwoods, which is what I have been using for the last 10 years on my deck. Can I use the “for hardwoods” product or do I need to return it and get what I have used in the past? Thank you.
Use the same as you have done before.
Can Defy Extreme Semi-Gloss Deck Stain be applied on two-year-old pressure-treated decking?
Defy does not come in a semi-gloss or any shine. If you meant semi-transparent, then yes, but make sure the prep first with the Defy Cleaner and then the Defy Brightener.
Thanks. You’re right. I meant semi-transparent.
I just installed a fence with AC2 pressure treated lumber, do i need to use any of the defy products to prep the wood, or can i stain right away with the extreme stain.
See this for new wood tips: https://www.defystainhelp.com/prep-new-wood-for-defy-stains/
Applied Defy Extreme, Semi-Transparent Cedar Stain to Deck after cleaning and brightening and following directions. Yesterday was heavy storm with mostly water beading over most of deck. However a few areas were unbeaded with a matte look. Should these areas be re-treated/stained after fully dry?
No, it is normal. Defy is not designed to bead water but sheds water.
Looking for advice for a 14 year old Mahogany deck. Which product would you suggest? Just cleaned and power washed the deck this weekend. We did have green mold on the deck, which we cleaned and previously used Penofin , but not satisfied that this green mold appeared in less than a year after it was done. It’s now 2 years and ready to protect my deck. Would an oil base product still be the best or could we use a water based product? Thanks for your help
Use Defy Hardwood Stain for this: https://www.defystain.com/defy-hardwood-stain.html
I missed the 2nd coat 20min to 1hr+ window of time. What do I need to do to apply a 2nd coat? ( I also noticed the instructions say horizontal surfaces may need “maintenance coats” how do I avoid patchy adherence if I apply a maintenance coat? )
You will need to wait 6-12 months and then prep again.
What is the shelf life of Defy Semi-Transparent Stain. Would the balance of a 5 gallon bucket still be good in 2 years to do a recoat?
Thanks
No, 12 months, if opened, is the shelf life.
Thanks!
Hello,
I started stripping the stain from my deck (PT wood) and I run out of stripper half way through the job
There was a lot of stain on the deck.
Shall I use the brightener on the stripped part of the deck (I started stripping yesterday), or can I wait 4 days for the stripper to be shipped and continue where I finished?
Thank you!
Marcin
Finish the stripping and then brighten all when done.
Thank you so much for the quick response!
Hello,
I would like to ask a follow up question. I finished removing old stain yesterday with stain stripper. I need to sand a few small areas with old stain (a few balusters) balusters. I also need to smooth out the railing edges. I plan to use grit 60. I wanted to apply the brightener now, and sand afterwards. Would it be ok, or I sanding needs to happen first?
Sand first and then brighten.
I have 1100 sf of 20 year old original Trex composite weathered gray decking. I would like to coat it with a different color that would cover the imperfections and give the deck a new look. What would you recommend?
Sorry but Defy stains are not designed for composite decks.
I used Deck Stain for Hardwood on a deck and railings. Can Defy Extreme be applied over it? It has held up very well but I applied Extreme to the same type of wood (Eastern White Cedar) on the walls of a shed and it looks brilliant. I would like that appearance on the deck.
If you strip it and then brighten for prep you can then apply it.
If staining with Defy Extreme solid stain over old Defy semi-transparent (mostly worn off, some areas not as weathered), does all the old stain need to be removed before staining? (will I need stripper in case the cleaner doesn’t remove all the old stain?)
You do not have to remove all. Clean and pressure wash off loose stain and dirt.
Can a car wash brush be used to apply Defy solid deck stain on horizontal surfaces? Also, what is the fastest way to apply solid stain to the railings / pickets? Thanks again.
No, you would need a roller and a regular paint brush. You can also use an airless paint sprayer.
Hi, What is the difference between Defy extreme semi-transparent in Crystal clear and Defy extreme Clear in Crystal Clear?
We have a house with cedar siding. Some semi-transparent stain have been put several years ago but nothing since then. The wood has now different brown/dark hue that we’d like to keep which is why we are looking at a crystal clear stain with no color on it although we know that it will darken the wood a bit.
Which one would you recommend us? I have attached pics.
Thanks a lot
Patrick
They are the same thing. You cannot add a clear sealer like the Defy or any other clear sealer brand over a semi-transparent stain.
Thanks! sooo… what do you recommend?
You cannot maintain your current appearance by adding something on top. Your options are to leave is for now or do a full and proper redo that would include stripping, brightening, and then restaining.
I want to spray a wood shed with Defy Extreme. If Defy gets on firewood (through the air gaps in the walls) will it effect a metal chimney or cast iron stove?
No, it should not.