Last Updated on February 8, 2021 by Defy Help
Update on Defy Stains for 2021
We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions on prepping and application. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.
DEFY wood and deck stains contain advanced quality synthetic resins that resist mold and mildew growth, are easy to apply, and environmentally friendly. How your Defy stands up to the elements varies though. A stain’s longevity is directly related to the preparation of the wood and how the stain is applied. At DefyStainHelp.com, we want everyone to have the best possible results when using the products we sell.
Please give us some details about your wood restoration project.
- Structure? Examples: Decking, Fencing, Wood Siding, Dock
- Wood Type? Examples: Redwood, Cedar, Treated Pine, Exotic Hardwood.
- When was Wood Installed?
- The last Brand of Stain used, if any?
- Additional Info if Needed
Please respond to these questions in the comment area below so we may offer some advice and help.
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TWP Stain Help Staff
Hello-
i just got done staining my new pressure treated deck (1 year old). I used the Defy extreme butternut. The railing and post looks great but I ran out of stain on the deck boards and you can see the transition from one stain to the next half way across my deck. I only did one coat on the deck boards. This has now dried for 3 days. Can I apply a second coat?
No, second coats have to be applied wet on wet. You can remove and start over or wait until next Spring to clean and recoat.
What would happen if I apply another coat now? Also, what is the process of restraining next time my deck needs it? Do I have to sand everything off if I’m using the same stain?
The first coat has already cured so the second may not adhere and or soak in, resulting in possible premature failure. When redoing in a year or longer, just clean and recoat.
What would happen if I don’t wait to apply another coat? What’s the process of restraining the deck when the time comes? Do I have to sand everything down if I use the same stain?
We already responded to this above.
what tool is best to apply your composite sealer~~roller, brush, spray, pad applicator?????
Stain pad applicator or brush.
Previously used Defy Wood Stripper. Wood has dried after that process. Planning on using Defy Wood Cleaner and then Brightner next. Should the Wood Cleaner be applied to pre-wetted wood or dry? Label says to wet surface – video on youtube shows it being applied to dry wood.
Pre-wet the wood first.
We applied the semi transparent deck stain, two coats a few days apart. Since then we have had a lot of rain and have had puddles of water in the deck. In a few spots it seems to have left marks. Should we remove the excess water after big rains?
You should not have to but you did not apply the second coat correctly. It has to be applied wet on wet, not days apart. This could lead to issues down the road.
Hey,
I am going to add kiln dried boards for my porch skirting. Will I be able to stain right away?
Pressure wash, clean then brighten with wet on wet?
I am sending pictures of the completed stained porch. I know we made some mistakes but will do better next time! I am still pleased. Thank You.
Wait 1-2 months and then prep the skirting with the Defy Wood Cleaner. The porch looks great.
We live in Northern AZ and our TREX deck is exposed to snow, ice and 100+degree heat. It has been down for seven years. In the last two years it has developed a white haze on the surface. It has not occurred in places where the deck is protected by something sitting in one place on it. I contacted TREX and they agreed that there is problem from the pictures I sent them. Would your cleaner and composite deck treatment help us get rid of the white haze? TREX stated that it occurs in some parts of the country but offered no good reason for it nor any process to restore the deck to it’s original color.I have attached a couple of pictures to illustrate the problem. One picture shows the door mat moved over and the other was when I power washed the deck. The circled area is where a mat sits in the summer and the surrounding area did not change appearance durring the washing and powerwash rinse. I have more pictures if they would help.
You cannot fix this, It is permanent and needs to be replaced.
Looking for a concrete sealer / paint, I have a sidewalk that was patched several years ago. Due to portions that were crumbling. The newer portion is a different color than the older section even after power washing. Do you have any products that would color it all back to one color and then seal it?
We do not.
We applied wet on wet to 10 month old new redwood.
Deck wood is splotchy after 2weeks. Wood did not take Defy Redwood Stain evenly.
Suggestion???
Do you have pictures?
Pictures.
I sent photos last week. But I’ve not heard back??
Your photos were never uploaded as you can see above. They have to be smaller than 3MB.
Is there a “shelf life” or a “best used before” date on your stain? I have run into project delays and in a worse case scenario the project could be delayed as much as a year. The stain was purchased in the spring. Is this an issue?
It will be fine for 2-3 years, do not let it freeze.
Good News! Thank you!!
If I use Defy extreme stain can I put Marine spar Varnish Like Total Boat Glaze spar over it?
No, it will peel if you do this. Never top coat a deck stain.
What is the best stain to use on a deck with new, unstained, pressurized pine wood 8″ wide by 2″ deep boards, that has been weathered for 12 months? Does prep require cleaner and brightener?
Yes, you will need to prep with the Defy Wood Cleaner and then the Brightener. Use the Defy Extreme Stain.
https://www.defystain.com/defy-wood-restoration-products/defy-extreme-5-gallon.html
Thank you for your replies!
What is the best stain to use on pressurized wood 8″ wide 2″ thick, pine. It has aged for 12 months, new wood, never stained.
Hello, I have several questions. I’ve used Defy Extreme semi-transparent on a small covered porch, and I read that the hardwood line is better. When it is time to re-coat can I use the Hardwood Stain over the Extreme?
Secondly, I have a large cedar sided home that. has not been sealed or stained in at least 10 years, and it is extremely dry on the eastern and southern faces with black discoloration. What do you recommend to restore and stain? This is in Maine.
Best to stick with the same version that you used. Use the Defy Extreme Stain (not hardwood) for the cedar home:
https://www.defystain.com/defy-wood-restoration-products/defy-extreme-5-gallon.html
I neglected to say that the siding is rough sawn, does this make a difference in selection of stain line?
It does not.
We recently bought Defy Deck Stain. We applied it to a new redwood deck after waiting 10 months. As per your instructions, we did a total clean followed by Defy Brightner. The redwood stain is pretty blotchy in several areas. We only applied when not in the sun. You told us to only use 1 coat.
Will we need to apply another coat?
And should it be done this year or wait a year??
You can apply another coat in 6-12 months. Prep lightly first with the Defy Wood Cleaner.
I have 2 year old cedar deck originally covered with Olympic Elite cedar tone. Used Behr stain stripper and then neutralized with Behr cleaner. Pressure washed stripper so deck was sanded with 150 grit to remove “hairs”. Can I apply 2 coat “wet on wet” or should I apply1 coat? If 1 coat, when should 2 coat process be applied?
You over sanded. Never sand finer that 80 grit or you can have issues with stain penetration. You might need to re-clean to open up the pores of the wood. One coat of stain.
Is this product good for log siding.
Works great for vertical wood siding!
I applied two coats of Defy stain yesterday. Today the deck is shiny and tacky. I followed all instructions including cleaning and brightening. Any suggestions to fix the shine and tackiness?
This happens when you over apply. Give it time to cure out. It may need a few days or longer.
is there an option for driftwood gray in the marine stain?
There is not, but you can use the Defy Extreme Stain on a dock:
https://www.defystain.com/defy-wood-restoration-products/defy-extreme-5-gallon.html
Thank you. Will the extreme hold up as well on a dock?
Yes, it will.
should I remove aluminum or iron decorative railings before I clean and brighten the new wood. I didnt know if it would remove paint on metal.
thanks
It should be okay but test spot first to see if a reaction. If none, go ahead but make sure to rinse well prior and when done.
I have 20+ year old wooden windows that have mold/mildew stains from condensation. Would Defy Wood Brightener work on the windows to lighten wood and then be stained?
The Brightener does not remove mildew. You need the Defy Cleaner first and then the Brightener.
It’s supposed to rain tmrw, should I hold off using the extreme clearcoat until I have a full 24 hrs to let it cure. Year old deck that we are ready to seal.
It can take rain 6-8 hours after applying.
Deck is sticky after 48 hours applying stain
2- coats wet on wet
Rained 12 hours after applying
Light walnut defy extreme
That could happen from over application and or improper prep. Rain should not have had any issues 12 hours later but it is possible. Give it a few more days to cure.
been 2-weeks the deck is still tacky
some say use mineral sprits to remove excess stain using either cotton cloths or steel wool do you agree
or
if I just leave as is what will happen
Never use steel wool on a deck. It will leave metal in the wood that will rust and turn to black spots. Mineral spirits probably will not work since Defy is water based, not oil based. You can test spot to see.
Any suggestions in the removal of the tackiness if mineral sprits does not remove it
or with time will it wear off or peel
Hard to say if it will peel or not. If that does not remove tackiness then your only option is to remove and start over.
New cedar fence. Applied Defy clear sealer stain. Less than 6 months old, fence is starting to gray. What now?
Prep and apply one of the Defy Extreme Colors. It will last 3 times as long on a fence.
I found my wet wood dry time buried in one place ..you should make it easier to find ….
” Permit the wood to dry for approximately 48 hours before continuing. Do an absorption test on the wood by sprinkling a few drops of water on the surface. The wood should absorb the drops immediately if not, do not apply the stain. The wood may not be dry or porous enough to accept the stain correctly. Test a small area before staining to assure desired results.”
how dry does the wood need to be after cleaning brightening ?
48 hours of drying after prep.
I have black metal enamel railing on my deck. Do I need to remove that before doing Breitner?
It should be okay but test spot first.
hi, love the stain. The only issue is despite masking, the stain splattered further out than I anticipated. Is there any cleaner that will get little spots of stain off vinyl siding or plastic? I have tried several cleaners and no luck so far. Thx
Try a water-based graffiti remover cleaner from your local paint store.
I just did our 3 1/2 yr old deck as instructed with Defy stripper, brightener and stain. It had been stained 2 1/2 yrs ago with an oil stain.
Looks good but 48 hrs after the floor was done with 2 coats stain, I gently hosed and scrubbed a big bird poop off and the stain came off too. I used no detergent.
Should I have waited longer before cleaning or use a different method?
It was proabbly not fully cured and do not scrub a deck stain.
I used the Driftwood gray on a pressure treated deck prepped correctly. At the end of the stain, it seems that some of the pigment clumped together and I have a spot that has way more color than the others. My mistake, but any tips on how to fix this or remove the extra stain?
You cannot spot fix this without affecting the rest of the deck.
I would like to stain my outdoor stairs that are pressure treated pine with a semi-transparent color. Where can I see the colors.
See here to buy and see colors: https://www.defystain.com/defy-extreme-stain.html
Can you please tell me where I can see the driftwood semi-transparent color on pressure treated pine. Do you sell this stain at any retailers at all in Connecticut?
We sell online and best to try a sample to see how it looks on your wood as age of the woo will make a difference in final appearance.
https://www.defystain.com/defy-stain-samples.html
We stained our new cedar siding with Defy transparent stain in the cedar color last summer and find it too orange, We would like to make it more brown and was thinking of restaining with 100% butternut or maybe adding some cedar color to the butternut..we are trying to match other old existing siding. Do we have to do any prep before restaining? We have some unused stained boards from last year and can do stain testing on it..
We love your product and it has faded abit in the last year but still too orange.
To change colors it would be best to remove the current stain. Use the Defy Stain Stripper and then Defy Wood Brightener.
We are suppose to have a light frost possibly the next two mornings, should I wait before using the Brightener?