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2019 Update for Tips and Advice for Defy Exterior Wood and Deck Stains

Defy Deck Stains have become one of the top-rated water-based exterior coatings in 2019. We love hearing from our customers who have used the Defy Stains or have questions on prepping and application. We appreciate your input, so feel free to leave a comment below and pictures of your completed projects if you have them.


Welcome to the official help site for DefyStain.com! DEFY wood and deck stain products are formulated with premium quality synthetic resins that resist mold and mildew growth, are easy to apply and are environmentally friendly. Defy stains offer protection from UV fading, wood rot, water damage, and mildew for all types of wood species. Use DEFY Wood Stains on pressure treated lumber, cedar, mahogany, redwood or any vertical or horizontal exterior wood surface.

The Defy stain help site is designed for exterior wood and deck owners looking for help with Defy Extreme Stain, Defy Stains for Hardwoods and Defy Epoxy Fortified Wood Stain. We will offer tips and proper application instructions for Defy Stains so you may achieve professional results.

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Jen
Jen

We have a new fence and are trying to decide if we want it to go “naturally gray” while still protecting the wood. If so, would it be any more protective to use driftwood gray instead of clear?

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January 21, 2019 12:05 am
Defy Help
Defy Help

If you want it to naturally gray, use the Clear.

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January 21, 2019 12:57 am
Mark
Mark

I have applied 2 coats of Driftwood gray at air temp of 49˚. The stain took longer to set up for the second coat and the final results had great penetration but not as much gray color on the surface as I would like. Can I add one more coat on cured product to increase the gray color?

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January 16, 2019 2:00 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

No, not at this time as it will not take or adhere since it has already cured. You can lightly clean and apply another coat in 6-12 months.

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January 16, 2019 3:13 pm
john bertholl
john bertholl

An older friend had a can of Biowash Natural Deck Oil (OLD) and I put it on her porch. It won’t dry, how do I get rid of it and replace it with Defy wood oil. She like it cause there is no chemical that she is a allergic to.

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August 8, 2018 4:01 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

You would need to strip and sand to remove. Once removed, brighten the wood.

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August 9, 2018 1:05 pm

john bertholl
john bertholl

is Defy and biowash natural deck oil the same thing

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August 7, 2018 9:28 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Defy Extreme is not the same thing. Defy Wood Oil is very similar to the old Biowash NDO. Same colors as well.

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August 8, 2018 11:48 am
john bertholl
john bertholl

can you use Defy on picnic tables and chairs-wood

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August 7, 2018 9:26 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Yes you can as long as you prep correctly.

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August 8, 2018 11:47 am
Linda Taylor
Linda Taylor

I just used cleaner on my deck. A large deck a little tired at 75 . Can I wait to do brightener or does it need to be done right after the cleaning. We have been having some pretty hot days in the 90’s. How long can I wait to stain. I am concerned the stain will dry to quick . My deck is in the hot sun all day. Thank You

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August 6, 2018 5:54 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

It should be brightened as soon as possible. Stain within 15 days of the prep.

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August 7, 2018 12:08 pm

Kathy
Kathy
I have a 1 year old, unfinished, gabled tongue & groove red cedar ceiling over a paver brick patio. It is trimmed in Trex siding so it is not exposed to the elements. I live in Northern Illinois. I have been told that although the ceiling does not get any snow or ice on it that it is possible that as the sun sets in the afternoon and shines down on my brick pavers that the ceiling can be getting some UV exposure. My patio is not enclosed. Not sure if this is true or not but makes sense. At… Read more »
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July 12, 2018 10:38 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Use the Defy Hardwood as it will soak in better. Prep with the Defy Wood Cleaner. Use a stain pad to apply. Watch for drips and cover the patio below.

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July 13, 2018 10:47 am
Kathy
Kathy

My ceiling is 18’x18′ and is 13′ high at the center. How much stain do you think I will need? Should I apply 1 or 2 coats this fall? Or 1 coat this fall and another next spring? Just to clarify then you think I only need to use the cleaner and not a brightener? Thanks.

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July 14, 2018 3:11 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Just one coat. About 3 gallons. Yes on the prep.

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July 15, 2018 2:19 pm
Kathy
Kathy

Should I go ahead and apply a second coat in the spring or wait and see how it looks first?

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July 16, 2018 2:42 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

You will most likely not need another coat on a ceiling next Spring. Maybe in a few years.

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July 16, 2018 2:56 pm
Drew Beck
Drew Beck

Although it’s been at least 48 since the last rain some of the boards still feel wet. Am I okay staining today?

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June 24, 2018 2:59 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Not if damp. Let dry longer.

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June 24, 2018 10:25 pm
Jeff
Jeff

I have a 15 ft vaulted tongue and groove ceiling ,unfinished pine, two year old screened in porch Would be a bear to clean.No weather exposure. Is prep necessary in this sort of application. Wood looks great, but needs protection no graying or fading yet

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May 5, 2018 2:16 am
Defy Help
Defy Help

Hi Jeff, yes you have to prep to remove the mill glaze. Do a light cleaning and brightening.

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May 5, 2018 10:49 am

Diane H
Diane H

I used Defy cleaner, brightener and stain last Spring on my new deck after waiting several months for the wood to dry. It looked great! I doesn’t seem to be repelling water as well as it did at first. Should I apply a second coat this year, and if so, do I need to clean/brighten again first, or just wash with soap and water?

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March 5, 2018 5:11 am
Defy Help
Defy Help

No need to apply a coat unless it visibly looks like it needs it. Defy “sheds” water and does not “bead” water. If you do want to do a light coat, then use the Defy Wood Cleaner first as the prep.

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March 5, 2018 11:30 am
Robert Lee
Robert Lee

Hello
Approximately 7 years ago I stripped and restrained my log home using the Epoxy redwood stain. I see that is no longer available. I am going to use the extreme redwood this time. Do I need to strip the epoxy off of just give it a good cleaning and then a apply extreme with 2 coats wet on wet?

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March 3, 2018 7:20 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Prep with the Defy Wood Cleaner and pressure washing. The Epoxy and Extreme are compatible

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March 3, 2018 9:19 pm
Robert Lee
Robert Lee

OK good …. I still have the cleaner smile
Thank for the fast reply

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March 3, 2018 9:26 pm
Christoph Kunkel
Christoph Kunkel
Hi – My wife and I just finished restoring our deck with your products (stripping, brightening, sanding, and staining). Hard work, but result is immensely satisfying. We love the light walnut tone. We have two single gallons left, I ordered generously to protect against running out. How long will the stain keep in a fairly cool basement for a refresh down the road? And am I correct in thinking that for a deck that gets quite a bit of sunlight and rain (Maryland climate) at least the floor boards and railings will need a new coat in 2 or 3… Read more »
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July 18, 2017 3:29 am
Defy Help
Defy Help

Yes a light recoat in about two years is normal. See this about shelf life:

Defy Stains Shelf Life

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July 18, 2017 12:14 pm

Ralph Gesin
Ralph Gesin

I previously applied Defy Epoxy Fortified Wood stain with very good results. Now it si time to reapply. What product can I apply over the Epoxy fortified stain?

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July 5, 2017 2:13 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

The Defy Extreme Stain:
https://www.defystain.com/defy-extreme-stain.html

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July 5, 2017 2:29 pm
Kurt
Kurt

Hi- I have just cleaned, brightened, and stained entire vertical cedar house beautiful. What do I do going forward? I don’t ever want to have to strip this whole house again?

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June 23, 2017 1:44 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Just lightly clean and reapply as needed. Every 3-6 years or so. Do you have pictures? We would love to see them!

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June 23, 2017 4:58 pm
Kurt
Kurt

Yes I can send pictures. Where to? Can you please tell me in detail what you mean by “lightly clean”. I don’t want thehouse to get darker every time I stain.

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June 23, 2017 7:11 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Lightly clean to remove dirt and grime is all you need to do. You can upload pictures right here in the comment area.

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June 23, 2017 8:46 pm
Kurt
Kurt

So I am a precise guy. Do you mean use your wood cleaner to lightly clean the wood or just with soap? If the wood cleaner how much would you dilute the cleaner so as not to remove the old stain. This is where the trouble starts from past experience. You try to “lightly clean” and you take off the prior stain in patches or different spots and you end up having to strip the whole thing to get it uniform.

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June 23, 2017 10:18 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Depends on who dirty it is. Sometimes you need just some soapy water and other times you will need a deeper cleaning with the Defy Wood Cleaner. It is okay to remove some of the stain, as long as you remove it evenly. I would not worry about it now, but when time to redo. Address the best way to prep then. Looking forward to the pictures. Did you see our contest?

Defy Stain Contest 2017. Win Free Stain & Weber Grill!

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June 24, 2017 11:04 am
bob
bob

I am using Defy Extreme butternut, love it . Sadly i have some drops on my vinyl siding what the best way to remove them without damaging my siding? Thank you

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June 15, 2017 2:30 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

Try a water based graffiti remover from your local store.

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June 15, 2017 4:29 pm

Karleen Pratt
Karleen Pratt

My deck has previously been stained. It has been power washed but some stain still remains. If I am understanding correctly I would not be able to use Defy Extreme without total stripping.

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June 7, 2017 1:31 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

You did need to remove the previous stain when switching to Defy.

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June 7, 2017 1:49 pm
Janis
Janis

Thank you. However, the whole point of kiln dried after (pressure) treatment- KDAT is that it has already been dried and finished shrinking. The plan is to treat immediately as is recommended for KDAT. Is cleaning and one coat of Defy Extreme still the recommendation?

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April 11, 2017 12:17 am
Defy Help
Defy Help

Janis, the need to weather has nothing to do with moisture content and KDAT wood manufacturers wrongly assume that deck stains can be applied right away. Best to wait about 1 month after install, clean and brighten for prep, and apply 1 coat.

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April 11, 2017 12:10 pm
Janis
Janis

I plan to use Defy extreme on a new deck with KDAT flat surfaces and pressure treated uprights and beams. The KDAT will be treated immediately. The pressure treated will wait at least 6 months. Are there any special considerations using Defy extreme?

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April 10, 2017 6:41 pm
Defy Help
Defy Help

See this about new wood:

Prep New Wood for Defy Stains

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April 10, 2017 9:13 pm

Mike Smellie
Mike Smellie

Hi I am going to use defy extreme to restore my decks. I have metal spindles in my rail system and wanted advice on the best way to protect these while stripping brightening and staining. The metal spindles are supported by PTW top and bottom. Thanks!

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April 17, 2016 5:11 pm
DefyHelp
DefyHelp

Are the spindles coated? The coated spindles should not be affected from the prepping products but always best to test first. As for the stain, either mask off the spindles or stain around them carefully and wipe off any stain that gets on them immediately.

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April 17, 2016 5:28 pm
Mike Smellie
Mike Smellie

Yes they are coated. I’m assuming it is a powder coating. Thanks for the really quick reply.

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April 17, 2016 5:30 pm
Victor
Victor

I have a recently built walkway and a 2-y old patio, both with flagstone that I would like to seal. Does any of your sealer products work for that kind of material? Tks.

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April 30, 2014 2:03 pm
Defy Help
DefyHelp

Victor, best to seal the flagstone with the Masonry Saver Heavy Duty Water Repellent:
http://www.defystain.com/all-purpose-water-repellent.html

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April 30, 2014 2:05 pm
Tom
Tom

We stained our deck with Extreme about 4 years ago. It is in need of being stained again. Do I need to use the wood cleaner and brightener or just the brightener?

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April 30, 2014 12:53 pm
Defy Help
DefyHelp

Tom, you would need to wood cleaner and brightener.

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April 30, 2014 1:10 pm

Mpg
Mpg

We are trying to sand our deck down to the bare wood which had years of Cabot solid stain on it, but previously someone power washed it and chewed up the wood. We can not get into those grooves. Is there some way to remove that so we could put a semi transparent stain on?

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July 9, 2013 5:54 pm
Defy Help
DefyHelp

Mpg, sanding is really the only effective way to remove a solid stain as a stripper will not work.

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July 9, 2013 7:57 pm
Hauda
Hauda

CAN i use the defy satin product on a Deck Wood That i did pût a teint last year??????
I am not able too take OUT all teint i cléan all surface with pressure machine …
I want it too pût new teint this sommer but friend suggestion your product defy sealer??
Is it so late bécause the Wood was teint ones??? Thanks too Answer as soon ..
If yes i CAN use it and i live in Montréal Canada so How too order it???

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June 8, 2013 11:26 pm
Defy Help
DefyHelp

You cannot apply Defy on top of another stain. The old stain would need to be removed first.

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June 9, 2013 11:53 am
Jediah
Jediah

Can a water soluble powdered dye be added to the Extreme Stain to achieve a custom color?

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May 17, 2013 6:01 pm
Defy Help
DefyHelp

No you cannot do that.

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May 17, 2013 9:39 pm

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